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September 26,

Did JFK Really Win the Famous TV Debate?

September 26: TODAY in Irish History:

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1960: Did Kennedy Really win the First Debate against Nixon?

Two Irish Americans square off in the first major televised presidential debate. While Kennedy’s Irish heritage is well known, Nixon had also strong Irish heritage although this is not something we Irish tend to broadcast too much!

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Kennedy and Nixon prior to the debate 1960

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Nixon discovered the power of television earlier than Kennedy. While campaigning with Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1952, his famous “Checkers” address saved his political career.

Kennedy though ultimately benefited more from the power of television more than Nixon. And despite all the kudos JFK got for his performance in debate one, much of it was down to good fortune and good luck and a lot of the debate commentary appears to be retrospective poppycock!

It is accepted presidential history that those who watched on TV thought Kennedy had won, while those who listened on the radio thought Nixon won.

There is very little conclusive evidence about radio listenership. It seems only one survey – conducted by Sindlinger Research asked about radio listenership. The small number of radio listeners polled preferred Nixon by more than two to one. Television viewers polled believed that Kennedy won the debate although not by a wide margin.

Newspaper reports following the debate were not at all emphatic about winners and losers. Variety reported “1st ‘Great Debate’ Historic Dud as Nixon & Kennedy ‘Play It Safe.”

The Washington Post reported: “Of the two performances Mr. Nixon’s probably was the smoother. He is an accomplished debater with a professional polish, and he managed to convey a slightly patronizing air of a master instructing a pupil.

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READ: Kennedy Nixon Debate Myth Debunked

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Nixon sweatin’

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Elements / Good Luck supporting the “Kennedy whipped him” theory.

  • Kennedy was naturally better looking than Nixon
  • Kennedy had been rehearsing / vacationing in Florida and developed a good color
  • Nixon was in substantial pain due to a knee injury which may have increased his tendency to sweat under the lights.
  • Nixon refused make up. So did Kennedy. The lack of it had just possibly had more impact on the more stubble-faced Nixon
  • By design or luck, Kennedy’s dark suit provided better contrast than the gray looking, ill-fitting suit Nixon was wearing. Nixon had lost substantial weight due to his knee injury in the weeks prior to the debate.

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In his book Counselor, Kennedy speech writer Theodore Sorensen believes that his man won, whether it was on TV or radio. The wonderful wordsmith Sorensen always wore rose-tinted glasses when viewing his candidate, but he recalls that immediately after the debate, Kennedy phoned his father Joe Kennedy for reviews. The old man was ecstatic about how his son had done. On finishing the telephone conversation, Kennedy said to Sorensen, “I still don’t know how I’ve done. If I’d slipped and fallen flat on the floor, my dad would have said, ‘The way you picked yourself up was terrific!'”

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September 13,

Father of US Navy – JFK Gets Date Wrong – Irish VC Winner

September 13: TODAY in Irish History:

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Commodore John Barry wexford born

Commodore John Barry wexford born

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The Father of the US Navy – John Barry

1803: John Barry, credited as “The Founder of the American Navy” dies. Barry was born in Tacumshane, Co Wexford March 25, 1745 to a poor tenant farming family who were at one stage evicted for inablity to pay rent. (A not uncommon occurrence in those days.) At about age 15, he emigrated to the United States.

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Wexford born Commodore John Barry

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Barry was an exceptional sailor and military tactician. Over his 17 year service in the Navy, he was involved in numerous battles with English forces both on land and sea. In 1794 he was appointed the senior Captain of the newly established United States Navy.

READ: Biography of Commodore John Barry

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1833: James Quinlan – Medal of Honor Winner

Medal of Honor winner James Quinlan from County Tipperary
Medal of Honor winner James Quinlan from County Tipperary

James J. Quinlan (September 13, 1833 – August 29, 1906) was a Union Army officer during the American Civil War and a recipient of America’s highest military decoration—the Medal of Honor—for his actions at the Battle of Savage’s Station. His citations states he “led his regiment on the enemy’s battery, silenced the guns, held the position against overwhelming numbers, and covered the retreat of the Second Army Corps.”

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1868: The Date John F Kennedy Got Wrong.

This is an incident that DID NOT happen today in Irish history although JFK when speaking to Dail Eireann, June 28 1963 about the Irish Brigade might have led you to believe otherwise.

The dates Kennedy should have referenced re The Irish Brigade at the slaughter of Fredericksburg should have been the 13th day of December and not 13th September. He also got his geography mixed up. Fredericksburg where the battle took place is in Virginia and not Maryland!!

A surprising goof by his masterful speech writer Ted Sorensen. To be fair, Kennedy had just given his famous Ich Bin Ein Berliner speech at Berlin which probably consumed more of his and Sorensen’s thinking than a relatively light-hearted, inspirational address to the Irish parliament.

“The 13th day of September, 1862, will be a day long remembered in American history. At Fredericksburg, Maryland, thousands of men fought and died on one of the bloodiest battlefields of the American Civil War. One of the most brilliant stories of that day was written by a band of 1200 men who went into battle wearing a green sprig in their hats. They bore a proud heritage and a special courage, given to those who had long fought for the cause of freedom. I am referring, of course, to the Irish Brigade. General Robert E. Lee, the great military leader of the Southern Confederate Forces, said of this group of men after the battle, “The gallant stand which this bold brigade made on the heights of Fredericksburg is well known. Never were men so brave. They ennobled their race by their splendid gallantry on that desperate occasion. Their brilliant though hopeless assaults on our lines excited the hearty applause of our officers and soldiers.”

Of the 1200 men who took part in that assault, 280 survived the battle. The Irish Brigade was led into battle on that occasion by Brig. Gen. Thomas F. Meagher, who had participated in the unsuccessful Irish uprising of 1848, was captured by the British and sent in a prison ship to Australia from whence he finally came to America. In the fall of 1862, after serving with distinction and gallantry in some of the toughest fighting of this most bloody struggle, the Irish Brigade was presented with a new set of flags. In the city ceremony, the city chamberlain gave them the motto, “The Union, our Country, and Ireland forever.” Their old ones having been torn to shreds in previous battles, Capt. Richard McGee took possession of these flags on December 2d in New York City and arrived with them at the Battle of Fredericksburg and carried them in the battle. Today, in recognition of what these gallant Irishmen and what millions of other Irish have done for my country, and through the generosity of the “Fighting 69th,” I would like to present one of these flags to the people of Ireland.”

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1914: Roger Casement

Roger Casement meets in Washington DC with Franz von Papen, the German military attaché to secure German support to overthrow British rule in Ireland. As The 1916 Rising was unfolding Casement was captured by English troops in Ireland. He was later executed for high treason.

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Roger Casement after his conviction

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1917: Irish Victoria Cross Winner

Twenty-two year old John Moyney from Rathdowney Co. Laois is involved in an action that wins him the Victoria Cross. His citation reads:

“On 13 September 1917 north of Broembeek, Belgium, Lance-Sergeant Moyney was in command of 15 men forming two advanced posts. Surrounded by the enemy he held his post for 96 hours, having no water and very little food. On the fifth day, on the enemy advancing to dislodge him, he attacked them with bombs, while also using his Lewis gun with great effect. Finding himself surrounded, he led his men in a charge through the enemy and reached a stream, where he and a private (Thomas Woodcock) covered his party while they crossed unscathed, before crossing themselves under a shower of bullets.”

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John Moyney Irish VC winner

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John Moyney survived the war and died in Roscrea, Co. Tipperary in 1980, aged 85.

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This history is written by Irish author, business keynote speaker and award winning humorist IrishmanSpeaks – Conor Cunneen. If you spot any inaccuracies or wish to make a comment, please don’t hesitate to contact us via the comment button.

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